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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:51 am    Post subject: Little Italy NYC Reply with quote

Some photos of Little Italy, NYC while working on VA Bronx hospital 1980-1981. Still trying to find out where Caruso's was exactly: past Spring Street on either Mott or Elizabeth, but not in the phone book anymore.


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The procession was up Mulberry to Old St. Patrick's across from the loft below Jersey Alley and E. Houston. While taking pictures, some guy came up to me and said there were no Italians in there, only Puerto Ricans...to which I thought, So?


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Between Prince and Spring on the east side was a storefront with this statue and lights. Had to show my mother, and very curious that someone could afford a storefront in NYC for a memorial.



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful pictures. I haven't seen those pushcarts in many years. I've got a sneaky feeling that Caruso's, like most of "Little Italy", is now Chinese.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful pictures! I really like them! Dancing
Thanks for sharing them with us, Dave!!! Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you all like the pics. There are more of NYC that I can upload as soon as I can scan. I wondered about posting here because most are of Italy, (which I love to see because of my grandparents home country that is beautiful) but this is our culture.

I have some of Auburn and our parish and want to tell what it was like growing up Italian-American here. Different from large cities and rural areas which I would like to hear about, as well as other countries, like Canada and Scotland, South America...I wonder if any Italians are in Africa or Australia or other places.

Here there were not enough Italians to have more than one parish, so I wonder if they compromised on St. Francis instead of choosing a patron saint of a certain town. They all worked together and I did not know there were different Italians when I was young.

Of course, every ethnic group has it's own parish, so that means lots of bazaars and lots of different food.

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I sent e-mail to friends to find out where Caruso's was; one answered but she is busy with an art show. In one picture you can see an oriental lady walking by, so I might have been down pretty far towards Canal. Even the outdoor displays on Canal probably aren't there anymore. Hard to believe that it is 27 years ago. A lot is gone now: CBGB, the stables in Central Park, Mama Leones. Sad.

I guess you would like to see more NYC pics, Simy, and I have seen the ones of your beaitiful town. We have a township called Italy at the southern tip of Cananandaigua Lake west of Keuka Lake, in the middle of the wine district. There's even an Italy village, Italy Hill, and East and West Italy. To the west of that is the township of Naples, with the village of Naples connected to Italy with Italy Hill Road and Turnpike. Bet there are a lot of Italians around there.

This in Central Park at the Alice In Wonderland statue; my friend Rich is on the left.



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't been to NYC in many years. The last time I was in Little Italy was for the San Gennaro Festival either just before or after 1994. My Wife and I along with our daughter and son and a friend of my daughter drove down and I parked on Mulberry Street. We went to NY because the local the Italian festival in Hartford, CT was either rained out or we missed it. Also, my Sicilian Mother and her sisters always talked about the San Gennaro Festival and how San Gennaro was the Patron Saint of my Father's town (Napoli). We had a great time until it got dark and then it got very crowded and scary. Mulberry Street and a few of the other streets were building to building people. This is where it was a good thing we had my daughter's friend with us as he was extremely tall and we all followed him up Mulberry back to the car. There were still displays on the sidewalks but I don't remember those push carts.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somehow I missed the San Gennaro Festival even though I stayed there over a year. Guess I was upstate visited my parents (missed the Thanksgiving Parade too because of that). My friend said she didn't like it because of people packing, but mostly because they set up the ferris wheel in Jersey Alley and she had to keep her shutters closed since riders could then see into her loft when they rotated by.

That was in 80-81 so the carts may have been gone between then and when you were there. At least you got to see it. Did your relatives ever live there? In Italian-American Folklore Frances Malpezzi has a chart of the area, showing which buildings were occupied by Italians from the different regions and even towns and villages. Sometimes people from a single village would take over an entire building; like having your hometown there, at least the people. The book is highly recommended if you want to know about all the various stories, beliefs and lifestyle (and food).

The area can seem rather abandoned with few on the street, not even children playing. There was a Police Benevolent Society north of Old St. Patrick's. And of course Gotti's club down the street. A friend from Kansas City said you could always tell the Italian neighborhood there because there was no litter. Everyone was afraid to.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more photo from the third floor loft overlooking Old St. Patrick cemetery across to Mott Street. One building looks like a Dutch style, but probably is more recent.

I had meant to scan more slides of the area, but that scanner is cantankerous and ran out of time at the library. Then the holidays and you know the rest. There are so many that I know you will like of Little Italy and all around NY.

A friend in California wanted pictures of her and her son back in 1980, and that took up most of the time. Maybe next week I can get back there.



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Better think about a scanner at home.

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