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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rosie!

Had a busy week...been sick most of it..and then Lou got sick. Couldn't keep my head up, I was so dizzy. Then the furnace went. Turns out I never had the flu..we had a carbon monoxide leak which was making us sick. Thankfully I had left a small window open a crack in the basement which kept us alive.

Need to have the heat exchange replaced and I just installed the furnace 5 years ago! Had no heat in the house since Wednesday. Anyway, to make a long story short, we're ok now but the next few weeks is going to be tough because they have to make the new heat exchange at the factory in the US and then fly it in (at my expense) and install it. What a pain in the neck!

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a bad thing, Nuccia!
I'm very glad to know that you and your family are all right. hug

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks simy,

We're all a bit shaken up but we're ok...Mainly just cold but thank God for space heaters and blankets and for good friends who are helping us take care of this. Unfortunately I bought a furnace which no one knew would be so defective..many people who have bought this type of furnace are having the same problem.

We decided to stay in the house but we may send the kids to my mothers if it gets too cold. Will keep you posted..

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good grief Nuccia - that must have been absolutely terrifying when you found out what a close call you had. I'm so glad you are all ok. Thank God for the open window.

Why is it when the boiler goes on the blink it is always winter?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marisa..thanks for thinking of us!

When they told me what it was I just finally sat down and cried..for almost 2 hours straight I might add. I just had had enough and had a total meltdown. I kept thinking of the kids and all those online death certificates of children that say cause of death: carbon monoxide..I haven't slept much the last few nights..keep going to check on the kids and have tested my alarms about a dozen times since then.

I can't believe the manufacture of the furnace didn't send out notices warning people of possible faulty heat exchanges..apparently the Gas Companies have dubbed them 5 year furnaces since thats all most of them last. In my case there were some other factors causing the leak. I also can't believe that the company does not keep the replacement heat exchanges in stock and have to manufacture them which can take up to two weeks..unless they have had to replace so many that they're all out..don't know anymore.

I sent the kids to Mom's for the night..I hate having them here now but hate it even more when they're away.

The temperature dropped tonight so its a bit colder than it has been yet I still have my windows downstairs open as well as one on every floor..just a crack of course. I'm not taking any chances until I get this fixed. Hopefully I'll be able to put another furnace in next year since I've lost faith in this one. We'll have to wait and see. Hopefully, the pipes don't freeze...its not that cold yet.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you haven't done so already run out and buy yourself a good Carbon Monoxide detector. They are cheap compared to getting sick and/or losing a life. Thank God that you are all better. What brand of furnace did you get so I won't make the same mistake as I have been thinking about converting to gas?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Gil,

I actually have 2 carbon monoxide detectors in the house..plug in with back up batteries..cost about $60. each. I also have smoke alarms on every floor and in each of the kids bedrooms..I'm pretty [CENSORED] like that since Safety is a big part of my job at work and I try and follow all safety procedures at home too. My husband and kids think I'm a nut but its instilled in me.

I need to check the brand name again to confirm but I was told to stick with Carriers and Lennox..they're more reliable. I wouldn't buy anything else next time...at least thats what the gas people said. The problem is, when I installed the furnace no one knew there would be problems with this line...It came highly recommended then..I guess people are just starting to see the problems with them now. The furnace back then cost me over $2000. so it wasn't like it was cheap and it is a mid efficiency one, too. Had a liner put in and all.

Don't care..I will always leave a window open in my house a crack from here on..carbon detectors or not..winter or summer.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes Nuccia, I'm glad you kept the window open too!!! Every now and again we read about a family that was killed from carbon monoxide poisoning. I even know a family who almost died from this.

We have2 heat pumps and 2 electric furnaces so no chance of that happening. Heating with electric is more expensive than gas but healthier and cleaner. The walls never get that yellow tinge that my parents get in their house in Ohio. They have a heat pump and electric heating in Florida. My mom noticed her villa in Florida stays cleaner and needs no paint like her house in Ohio which has gas heat.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I guess it would be cleaner. I'm forever washing walls and painting. Mind you, I like painting. I get bored of my paint colors frequently which drives Lou nuts since every two or three years I make him paint.

Maybe we should consider changing to electric..I'll need to look into that.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously a tragedy avoided thank goodness, but what a pity that this story is lost in our 'Jokes' section.....

I wonder if Simy could move the story and all related posts about it to another more suitable section - maybe even start a new one for 'Safety - Personal and Home'

I would really like anybody who visits our board to see, read and hopefully implement all the safety precautions that not only saved Nuccia and her family, but all the subsequent advice offered by others!

Would you mind Nuccia?

If not - then perhaps Simy could do it for us? How about it Simy - is it possible?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carole B wrote:
Would you mind Nuccia?

If not - then perhaps Simy could do it for us? How about it Simy - is it possible?


Done!!!

But I didn't wait Nuccia answer.... Eh? Confused

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent idea Carole and thanks Simy for working so quickly. I really wanted to ask you to have a section devoted to home safety..you can never be too careful.

All I can advise, and I can honestly say this from experience now..

Have your heating system inspected annually..check your smoke alarms and don't remove the batteries when they beep because they need replacing because it just means they're doing their job. Instead, replace the batteries immediately..I even buy some and replace them every two months whether they need it or not...makes me feel safer.

Check the codes in your city/country for how many alarms you are required to have by law and where they should be placed...

Don't be afraid to leave a window open every now again, regardless of the time of year..just don't leave one open in the middle of winter in your bathroom after taking a hot shower or your pipes will freeze and could cause serious damage to your home.

Clean your ducts and filters regularly...and always keep extra blankets and a space heater available for emergencies. I just had a "fire drill" for my family last night...I set off the smoke alarms to see how they would react and I made the kids practice taking out their storm windows in their rooms so that in the event of a fire they had a way out..an escape route. They took turns while the others used the phone to call for help (they called my cell phone because calling 911 wouldn't have been a good idea).

I feel a bit better that they're more prepared now..will have another next weekend. I'm grateful they spent most of the weekend at my family's but was glad they came home last night..I really missed them.

I hope others can add to this thread...always interested in ways to protect my family.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Nuccia for your precious advices! Applause

Do you know that it isn't obligatory to have smoke alarms here? I think that few people have it. We only have to check our heating system annually...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those of you with two story (or more) homes I'd also advise you to buy those rope ladders and have them in each bedroom. In case of fire family members will be able to use them instead of jumping out of windows and injuring themselves.

Fire extinguishers for use with both grease and electrical fires should be purchased and kept in the kitchen in case of fire there.

My sister-in-law forgot about some chicken she was cooking in her oven and it caught fire. Fortunately she had a fire extinguisher on hand and was able to put it out.

There are different kinds of fire extinguishers for different causes of fires. It's very important to know that you should never throw water on a fire caused by oil.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow Simy..

Things are so different in Italy. But principals are still the same I guess. Safety is safety no matter where you live. You just need to modify it to your surroundings I guess.

Rosie, great advise about the fire extinguishers. And I do like the idea of the ladders but how do they work? Do you keep them i the house? I would be afraid of people climbing up them into the house. And I have a daughter..I can just see her using it to sneak out at night in a few years d'oh! d'oh!

The weathers been mild here so I took the opportunity to air out the house for at least an house each day. I also bought some clean air plants which are very pretty. I vacuumed out most of my heating registers and cleaned the furnace filter..again. I bought the reusable one. It was a bit more expensive then the disposable ones but it traps more of the allergens in the house and can be cleaned easily. Also had the dog groomed and vacuumed the mattresses. I bought really good bed and pillow protectors to keep them clean. Guess I'm taking advantage of the situation to do a lot of cleaning that will make it more comfortable for living. Found these little things helps reduce colds and infections. The furnace really cause a lot of problems for people.

Does anyone use humidifiers in their homes? I hear they're really a good idea in the winter and I'd like some opinions.

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