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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be nice, Gil - I guess Emmy is a bird and dog person - cats would not always get along. I'm sure she would care for them as she does all animals.

Here's a set with Slug in one of the donut beds, surprisingly fitting in it; himself checking something by the garage; and Xeno panting.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave your cats are just wonderful
Believe it or not we did have a cat when we had a Jack Russell dog -- it was a stray and we discovered later it belonged to a nearbye neighbour, but it wouldnt go baqck to them. Its name was Chancer. (It got that name becasue we thought it was taking a chance coming to us with us having the dog. After a few years one day it just disappeared and we never found it again. It was rumoured at that time that some people were putting down posion to kill the wild rabbits and Chancer was in the habit of killing young rabbits so he may have been posioned. We never Found out.
I like all kind af animals/birds --wild/tame Dancing Dancing
This is Chancer.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Emmy,

Really like Chancer - he looks regal sitting there. Sorry that he disappeared. Did he and your dog play at all? I always like seeing them together, sleeping usually.

I have been suspicious around here also when it comes to people harming cats. Xeno looked like he was more than just sick before he took off.

There is another cat next door to my mother's niece that I call Guernsey because of his black and white markings. He often goes across the street through the church parking lot then to the back. When I went to pet him, he got up on his back legs and met my hand - every time.

Still have to find some photos of Slug just sitting like a king.

I had a feeling you were an all around animal person.

They had a show on Animal Planet about the Cat Cafes in Japan, as well as places people can go to to just relax around cats - as many said they could not have pets in their apartments. Then there is the cat gods and cat temples plus the small statues of them. Very nice and fun.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The weather has been nice enough for Slug to stay outside at night, but then I saw a news report.

Someone in Union Springs, about 8 miles to the west on Cayuga Lake, has been shooting cats with a pellet gun. One was injured in the legs and chest and another lost an eye.

As Stan always said "Why would anyone hurt a cat?"

I keep thinking of Xeno a few years ago when he had a round hole in the side of his face - wasn't sure if it was an animal that did it or someone with a BB or pellet gun. Even got suspicious about Snip's bleeding tail one day.

This, and more in France, where children were killed just because they were Jewish. I can add them to Stan's question. Why?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's so cruel when people go out just to hurt animals just for the fun of it. I often wish the animals could do the same back to those thugs. I know many years ago near where I lived then there was a 'nature enclosure' where people would go for a walk and they could take their children to see some of the animals and birds kept there. (That was the same place where I looked after the 3 legged deer and went there three times a day to feed it, it was very young it had been rescued after poeple found its mother dead.) They had rabbits, guinea pigs and various birds etc and one morning when the workers arrived they found the rabbits in a sorry state, some person/persons had cut the rabbits legs off and left them in pain and they had all to be put to sleep.
One thing I cant stand is cruelty to animals.
But what is happening now is unbelievable, killing people just for the fun of it! When caught those people should be locked up for life, not executed - and be made suffer and not be given all the 'treats' that some prisoners get nowadays. The punishment should be made to fit the crime.
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ps Chancer and our dog didnt play together- think the fact that our dog let Chancer get to get into the house was a big concession on the dog's part Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I cannot understand is why people do these things. What purpose can it have? Hunters at least go out to find food for their families and around here they donate to food banks for the poor.

Yet I would not hunt anything unless it was a very desperate situation. There really is no need, as there is plenty in stores. On the other hand, there are plenty of hungry people in the world, including here.

More children are going without sufficient food, and we could feed all them easily.

Unfortunately, that person in France did not live to be interrogated - and his brother is proud. They are angry at their situation, which should be addressed but this is the wrong way. Didn't like that they held the mother though.

A few years ago, some nut did the same to some Amish children - I always think of my Missy and Shania - or any of my friends' -

A lighter note...

Slug still has ear problems - he sits on my lap, purring while I clean them with a Q-tip and medicine - my mother asks me how could I do that (i.e. yuk). But compared to changing diapers, this is nothing. Once I tried to talk Missy into changing her own, but she just looked at me and smiled. Oh well, it was worth a try.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A week or so ago, Slug was on the porch one evening, but looking down towards the sidewalk rather than scanning the yards for errant foreign cats (even Phil, whose yard it is).

Getting the flashlight, a quick scan revealed a brown rabbit eating at the edge of the sidewalk. I called Slug in and he reeled back into the house (thoughts of food and treats) and the rabbit ran very fast to the back of the yard.

Later I saw a brown rabbit in our other neighbor's yard, grooming and cleaning ears etc.

The other night, there was a small dark object next to the old milk crate. Slug went towards it and I went to turn on the light. Might not be just a mouse as it was larger.

Safely under the inverted crate was small little tiny bunny - fit into the palm of my hand. By then it had run between the wall and kitty condo, but I got it out and went to the basement, bun in hand, to find a box for it.

Now what to do? Could have brought it far into the woods where Slug would not find it and left it to the fate of many offspring of our yearly rabbit visitors. Or call next door and tell them. Suggested that Andrea might want to see it and she and her boyfriend ran over.

They took the little one and said they would bring it to a licensed wildlife rehabilitator. Wish I had shown it to my mother first.

Should be more out there.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still some woodchucks around - will have to set up the trap.

Might be some other things also: Slug was staring across the street to our neighbor's trash and growling.

This turned out to be the black carrying case for a folding chair. But he must have seen something alive earlier.

So, as all you cat and pet people know, they do strange things. Slug drinks water from the opposite side of the bowl and so his chin is wet after imbibing. If the water is in a long container, like outside, then his entire chest is soaked. And this can be a surprise when he jumps up on my chest.

Lately have been letting him sleep on my legs while on the living room couch so he will not have to be outside with possible foxes and coyotes. It is a problem when I wake up at dawn and have to get him outside before my mother gets up. And I am very tired.

No garden in yet - dug up the garlic and Slug investigated the work. Maybe put in the tomatoes and hope the cages protect them. Must fertilize first or use new topsoil.

Peppers will go into a planter so I can bring them inside.

What a strange year so far. Hot (98F but 102F at Syracuse airport) but now chilly. Very little rain until now hopefully.

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The past two weeks have been spent trying to get Slug to eat - I call it "Assisted Feeding" rather than Forced Feeding because he does move his tongue and mouth as if he is eating on his own and helps get it down.

He lost a lot of weight and had been refusing his meals - his teeth are pretty bad and started bleeding - took a long time to stop and I looked all over for some kind of astringent that would be safe for cats - like the square pads that our dentists used to use. That would be a great invention.

He had been drinking a lot of water and his regular urination was quite a quantity. Since he had been outside most of the time he lived here, I did not know if this was normal. Then there were a few times he vomited but he occasionally did this over the years.

One day when it was 9F, my mother let him out, even though I said not to as he was susceptible to infections in his sinuses and upper respiratory tract. Sure enough, when I looked at him, his nose was running. So I said, now please do not let him out again or he will get worse.

I had been staying on the couch until almost daylight with him so he would not have to be in the basement for very long until my mother let him up. I made a nice cubbyhole down there with sections of thick insulation, holding a round bed, my old bathrobe to wrap around it and finally could use the pet bed heater I bought years ago. To get him to stay there, bribes were necessary - pieces of meat and treats. But he often would trail his blanket to go to the litter pan or run up the stairs. He knows a better place to sleep is with me.

The next morning, he was out and not on the porch where he usually stays and watches over his realm. So putting on my clothes, skipping the mutande (thermal tops and bottoms) and any else, I put the parka on and ran out the door. I could see his tracks going across the neighbor's yard and into the woods. He stopped at a small culvert for a drink and then went along a right of way for power pylons all the way to the Owasco River, over a quarter mile away. Stopped at two big culverts to drink again, very close to the river - there is a short spillway there - feared he may have fallen in but tracks went up the hill. Finally saw him but he ran away - guess he did not recognize me - and disappeared in a neighbor's yard. Went back home, very upset - figured he went to die somewhere. But later he was hovering over the heat register and wet from the snow.

Everything went downhill from there - to the vet for antibiotics but I could not get him to swallow the liquid so the next day brought him back and they gave him an injection of Convenia which will stay in his system for 14 days - some people think this is a dangerous medicine. They also gave him subcutaneous fluids to prevent dehydration both times.

Still he would not eat - so I used the 3ml syringe from the antibiotics to feed him, using regular cat food and mixed with water and the IAMS Dog Gravy. Another product I wish they would make is Cat Gravy.

It took 10 of these to reach what he usually ate, figuring out for regular feedings every 4 hours. He kept losing weight and so I asked for some special food called A/D. No improvement and he was very thin, having trouble walking. I felt that the dehydration was the key because, like when my mother was ill, it causes smell and taste to change (the antibiotics also cause loss of appetite) as well as other problems. The vet gave me 3 6ml syringes to make it easier to feed him - I use one to feed the slurry and another to give him water - that seemed to help.

Anyway he's still here in my room, sleeping in his bed on the floor, a litter pan in the closet entrance (he misses the edge often) and in the first time in two weeks finally had two poops, small but at last. The blood tests say his kidneys and liver are not functioning properly but the vet thinks we can help him with more fluids. They gave me a bag with the fluid and the IV lines, spare needles - showed me how to do it - hope I can do this without hurting him. He seems better from this last transfusion.

So, back to feeding him and giving him water, though tonight he drank by himself probably because of the subcutaneous fluids.

He is getting old and I know he can't last forever, but it has been so sad to see him like this. I will keep feeding and watering, but getting very tired. Also want to change the avatar to include Slug as well.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

February 11, 2013

My poor Slug is gone - a hard, unfair decision as he was in such bad condition - I should have taken better care of him - it's my fault again, just like with Snip.

He was my only joy - sitting in my Dad's lounger, reading a book with him on my lap, purring away and curled up asleep - the way it was supposed to be, finally in the house, safe and warm.

Now in the garage, wrapped in his blanket, a ribbon around the box, ready to join Snip where I can see them from the kitchen window.

So sad and unhappy...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So sorry to hear your sad news. As we have said often before a pet isnt just any animal it becomes part of your family and unlike some humans pets give you unconditional love. You are not to blame and you looked after him its just been his time to go. I know how you feel because my dog Gizzy isnt well
and I'm just dreading what will happen if he gets worse. He will be 14 on the 18th of this month.
Will you get another cat?
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I had intended to have the vets give him overnight better care as I was getting exhausted, feeding and giving him water with a syringe, using an IV setup to rehydrate (but used the last on Sunday). Called Monday morning saying I needed help - didn't get a chance to ask for another bag of Na-Cl - abruptly given a Goodbye!Goodbye! That has to be resolved with the owners.

When I got there at 2:40 (waited for a half-hour), I was told that his liver and kidneys were not functioning properly (same as what I was told the previous Thursday on the phone) - apparently this vet did not read the report until then. The choice was to think about things for a day, but I could not go through another night like the last two - Slug could not control his back legs (dehydration?) and I had to hold him up when he was in the litter pan. A new item in the report was that he was anemic - I kept telling them that the bleeding from his mouth was on and off, but a lot of long blood clots. The vet said it probably was not as much as I thought and would stop on its own - well it didn't until I used the styptic pencil pieces on a Q-tip.

I wanted to have the staff care for him overnight, with more fluids but they don't have someone there and I worried he might be afraid - though he might have been too sick to care - the cats were always afraid of strangers. And he might die alone without me there for him. The vet said it would be more powerful fluids but it would only give him 3 or 4 more days - (how did she know for sure?) Too hard to decide I told them, not fair to Slug, he wanted to live.

Looked down on him, hardly breathing, not moving; they went through the checkup, noting all the problems. Surprised them by agreeing, them saying it was the humane thing to do. They took him to the back for anesthesia, so he would go to sleep - a bandage on his left leg with a junction. Signed papers, petted him - wished I had got him to purr - did bring a tape of him doing so for the vet - his antibiotics were wearing off and it is raspy. She gave him the shot - no reaction, he is such a gentleman - and he was gone.

Wrapped him up in his blanket and went out the back, still holding back until I got to the car. Picked up my mother -

Regretted the decision when I got to my room, all the little pieces of tissues and paper towels that I used to clean his nose and face. Should have waited but it is too late now. Started to dig next to Snip that evening in the light rain - many stones. Finally found a nice plastic storage box to put the shoe box in - good fit. Went to see him several times, even tried to transfer some ashes from Ash Wednesday to him. A last hug and covered all up, a rock on top. A poster at the vet is for gravestones for your pet.

Miss my greeter - got a book by interlibrary loan about losing your pet - many of the headings just like I feel - it helps - this is a social worker who helps owners (humans) cope with pet loss at the University of Pennsylvania.

Noticed paw prints around the porch - Slug was sniffing around there last week - finally saw a young black and white longhair who I called to and rubbed my leg then rolled around. I told him to go back home. The next morning my mother saw it too but at night I watched as a cat walked towards our neighbors' = called him over, might as well use the rest of Slug's food. This one ran as I opened the door and turned out to be orange with a white patch on the chest, striped tail - very afraid but very hungry. I watched from the door and he kept looking up every few bites.

Haven't seen them since - I hope they have a home, otherwise I will try to find them one. I have my daily notes about Slug's care and want to write the vets - to clarify things and suggest better care. And complain about that phone conversation.

I know what you mean, Emmy - I have been thinking about you and Gizzy all along. Have your friends and family near to help you - strangers also have helped me - it's mourning and takes time.

Thank you for your words - I asked my mother, Missy and Shania to pray for Slug and also for Gizzy and you.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Know just how you are feeling Dave. Gizzy is still going to the vet and is on antibiotics.
I was sent this poem a long time ago and thought I'd share it with you:


Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge.
When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together. There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable.

All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor. Those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind.
They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent. His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster.

You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart.

Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Emmy,

Every bit helps - a number of people on line and in person have been very understanding. Some have lost pets and some worry about theirs.

The book I got from the library, suggested by another vet book on cats, has all the situations and reactions for we humans.

Jamie Quackenbush's 1985 book When Your Pet Dies - How to Cope With Your Feelings is about his work at the Veterinary Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania at Philadelphia. Comforting people who bring their ill pets in led to more of these offices to be opened in other veterinary hospitals.

Then people started writing and calling from all over - many noted in the book. So this has been a very good idea - people definitely need solace and understanding.

Very angry with myself, not seeing the signs or doing enough - though certainly more than most people.

My concern was for Slug (and Snip and all others) - he paid the price.

So, still without-cat and probably will stay so for the indefinite future.

There were two young cats a few weeks ago - and I see tracks once in a while - left out dry food and one of them ate most but left enough to indicate that they are not starving. I put the bowl away so my mother did not see it and the next morning there were tracks again. I didn't think the cat would be coming back. So, put the bowl under the glider where I can see it, but my mother probably won't. Nothing so far tonight but I'm going downstairs - if the porch light comes on, then I'll know one is going by.

Held off burying Slug until Thursday - bought a plastic storage box that the shoe box (it's larger than the old types) and unwrapped from his blanket him one more time for a hug and pet.

Found a round rock to put on top but will look for something more appropriate. Spray-painted both his and Snip's with copper and then bronze paint - maybe gold in the Spring.

Still going to write a letter to the vet, explaining what happened and asking questions. They sent a sympathy card, signed by several of the people there, including the vet and one of the owner-vets.

Checked my photos - seems that they came around here in 2002, Snip first and Slug on and off then permanently. So they were both around 12 or so - one person said that's a good run. But it could have been much longer if they were inside and got vet care throughout their lives.

Even if Slug recovered, the estimate for pulling his teeth was $700-$900;I'm sure we could get around that somehow. It was the fact that he couldn't control his back legs anymore and the vet thought he probably would not recover from that. But what if he did, once he was hydrated.

Yeah, driving myself crazy...and this time not a joke.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave, So sorry to hear that you have lost your poor cat. Our Luca is still hanging on. He seems to be in a trance and wanders around meowing at the top of his lungs. He is eating and drinking, but still skinny. Our other cat is a big fat orange one that was born in the wild and is afraid of his own shadow.

I haven't been around much as I have been doing some bookkeeping and a bunch of tax returns. That is in addition to reading my two daily newspapers and a bunch of online papers.

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