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Aether
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Family history Reply with quote

Nuccia,

I am putting final touches on my family history, it goes back a long way but I am concerned just from 1400's because before that point it will require working a few months in Rome - not possible now.
It is quite well documented - started by ancestors. At this time I am not quite sure yet if I should post it, still not much at home at Italgen.

Another topic- you mentioned about Tyler- Talarico and got me thinking about Satriano , Vai and others. What about an article on a few American musicians and their contributions to music in the Americas?

Sent a note on that to Italgen - guess did not gel there! Well, my bad habit to look at cooperation from academic angles!!!

Hope to be in Calabria end of April/May.Are you going to be there?
I am very much into Calabria byzantina for some research work.

Have a nice Family Day!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Family history Reply with quote

Aether wrote:
Nuccia,

I am putting final touches on my family history, it goes back a long way but I am concerned just from 1400's because before that point it will require working a few months in Rome - not possible now.
It is quite well documented - started by ancestors. At this time I am not quite sure yet if I should post it, still not much at home at Italgen.

Another topic- you mentioned about Tyler- Talarico and got me thinking about Satriano , Vai and others. What about an article on a few American musicians and their contributions to music in the Americas?

Sent a note on that to Italgen - guess did not gel there! Well, my bad habit to look at cooperation from academic angles!!!

Hope to be in Calabria end of April/May.Are you going to be there?
I am very much into Calabria byzantina for some research work.

Have a nice Family Day!

Aether Angel Dancing


Hi Aether..

You have a great idea there. Perhaps you should post that. It sounds wonderful.

I wish I could be in Calabria but unfortunately I am not able to leave Canada right now. It looks like its not going to be possible. Perhaps you can help by sending me pictures???

I would love to hear more about your work. I have a website and could use all the help I can get. Do you have my email? Maybe we can get together and talk about it some.

Yes, Family Day! Whoo hoo. The first time we are celebrating this holiday in Ontario. Unfortunately, it rained soo much yesterday (alot more than usual) and the snow has melted so quickly because of the mild weather. The streets are a mess and the day is cloudy and Grey. My basement is full of water which is something that hasn't happened in over 10 years so I will be using the day off to clean it up. Otherwise, it should be a perfect day!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Nuccia Reply with quote

Cara Nuccia,
As much I love US and Canada it gets me very mad that with a lot of reading and writing to do we find ourselves doing all this other stuff - necessary for everyday living!.

Friends of mine in Italy and Brazil are amazed that we have to do it all!
Well, we learn fast - want good meals? clean house ?- lets learn how to do it.
Managia!!! Vado subito a Cosenza! Ma dopo invece de writing vado a vedere Fiume Freddo, e sognare!

Tanti abbracci!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't have said it better myself!

Brava! Applause

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Family history Reply with quote

Aether wrote:

I am putting final touches on my family history, it goes back a long way but I am concerned just from 1400's because before that point it will require working a few months in Rome - not possible now.


Wow, would love to see what you've done! Back to the 1400's??

Do you have it online anywhere?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Nuccia Reply with quote

Aether wrote:
Cara Nuccia,
As much I love US and Canada it gets me very mad that with a lot of reading and writing to do we find ourselves doing all this other stuff - necessary for everyday living!.

Friends of mine in Italy and Brazil are amazed that we have to do it all!
Well, we learn fast - want good meals? clean house ?- lets learn how to do it.
Managia!!! Vado subito a Cosenza! Ma dopo invece de writing vado a vedere Fiume Freddo, e sognare!

Tanti abbracci!

Aether

My grandfather's family is from Cosenza province too! I would love to know if you have it online too. I would love to see what you have!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject: Family history Reply with quote

Nuccia, JamesBianco and CathyChicago,
Thanks for asking!

Finally got new password activated, after a few trials yesterday and today.
Adesso vado de corsa , late for an appointment, will answer later today!

Abbracci,
Sophia


book book Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:29 am    Post subject: Family history Reply with quote

Hi! Nuccia, JamesBianco and Cathy,

I wish I could tell all of you when the book will be available. I have been working on this project for 4 years, and it seems that I will need close to 2 more to complete all collection of primary data from various archives.

Recently I have asked LivioMoreno to make a phone call, in Rome, to find out if an Archive-Library is finally open.He kindly did it, but NO!

I have consulted many published works, but for a scholarly publication it is essential to research original primary sources which are available for consultation with special "tessere", which I do have, for various archives, the Vatican, etc.etc.

My long experience in Italy has been that when the Sapienza-Archivio di Stato is open, the Hertziana is closed, etc. etc. And the same goes in Bologna, Naples, Firenze.

In addition for all visual material: maps , charts, drawings, paintings, photos etc. I need to apply, and receive, permission to use = and to reproduce. This, besides the time involved I have also to bear the costs.

Some grants cover those expenses ?sometimes, otherwise it is up to the author. Please, add that to travel etc. Only one trip ? No!

I plan this book to be published, limited edition, in 2 volumes: text and illus. My conservative estimate is of 350 to 450 Euros min. for both .Until a few years ago several banks , "Istituti di risparmio" and others in Italy were willing to cover the publishing costs of said works. With the current economic situation in Europe it seems very unlikely that funds will be available.

I have in my library sources published in Venice and Amsterdam around
the end of 1500's, and in addition a genealogical tree prepared by generations of ancestors , well documented, and with all the xxx comments! - "Donna bella, ma de cattiva indole" and there it goes!

Generally I work on more than one project at the time - to protect my sanity! One, in UK took me close to 6 years, going there every summer for 3 months at the time. Just now, by chance, I met an old lady -92 young- with a fantastic collection of letters from 1800's notables, which she kindly made available to me - but there is a lot of research to be done before publishing.

It is much easier to work in UK. If you know what you want to do. The worst = Toronto- sorry!

I like so many people at Italgen. Elizabeth and others, However I have no patience with people "Shooting from the hip".

If I can get my $ together I plan to be in Italy soon, and in Calabria for sure.

MY DREAM- to see the "FULGURANTE" ! JamesBianco - have you seen it?

Well, I guess I have bored you all for now!

Abbracci to all! Sophia Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Family history Reply with quote

Aether wrote:
I plan this book to be published, limited edition, in 2 volumes: text and illus. My conservative estimate is of 350 to 450 Euros min. for both .Until a few years ago several banks , "Istituti di risparmio" and others in Italy were willing to cover the publishing costs of said works. With the current economic situation in Europe it seems very unlikely that funds will be available.

Aether, it's true, our current economy situation is not the best one here, but you can try just the same and send them your request, I'm sure that you could get the attention of someone who could be interested at your project. Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Family history Reply with quote

Dear Simona, Simy....

Thanks for your encouragement! However, I do not intend to shop for a publisher until I have the text at least 90% completed.

Although some authors resolve to pay for publication costs I do not favor "vanity press". It affects one's reputation as a scholar. And Journals pay very little for articles - like 20 euros, after a research cost in the thous.

I see here those super photos, and I almost hear the music! Is that YOU?
Also, I am not sure how to address you!

Abbracci, Sophia




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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really? Do they pay only about 20 euros for articles? I didn't know it. It's really sad. Confused

Well... as for me... I'm a 37 y-o woman, I think there are some pictures of me in our forum but I don't remember where they are.... d'oh!

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The guy on the pictures below my posts is my favorite singer: I had my first overseas trip by myself on September 2007 just to see his show... Guitar

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sophia..

Why did you find it so bad to research in Toronto? I am curious. I have never been to the archives here a;though my husband has. I have been to one of the bigger FHC though but that was to look through old Italian microfilms. And no need to be sorry... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Family history Reply with quote

Dear Nuccia,

It was at the ROM - really bad - a long story. But finally I got what I needed. Rather tell you in a pm.

Sophia d'oh! Eh?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sophia,

PM me then and let me know. The curiosity is getting the better of me.

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