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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:19 am    Post subject: Hello, looking for relatives and friends: Ferro, David Reply with quote

Hi,
Saw your site at ItalianGeneology in a post by Nuccia. We have been researching the family and do have some in Italy, but are not in touch at least by internet. The people over at ItalianGeneology are so nice, and I also want to help people find relatives, esp. in US.

My cousins have me looking everyone up on Ellis etc. We are third generation, so we did not want to learn Italian then, but do now and find our roots. We knew the usual commands for kids: hurry up, slow down, wait, close the door, be quiet, etc. but when our names were in the middle of an Italian paragraph between grandma and mom, we ran and climbed the "Chey-woots" tree (that's what they called the mulberry tree out back). And would not come down unltil we figured out what we did.

Anyway, now I am older (60-> how did that happen?) and have a daugher and granddaughter, take care of my 93 year old mother and also drive my aunt around, have a garden like dad and grandparents and have been asking all relatives anything about grandparents and the journey to America & life in Italy.

Thanks for having this site,

Dave Ferro[/u]
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dave,
welcome to Amici!
Welcome to our group

It's great to have you here with us!
You will have lots of fun here and meet great and friendly people!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to have you with us Dave....
Welcome

You're in the same (almost) age bracket as me so I bet you have a wealth of stories to tell. That is the beauty of this site - here we can 'sit awhile' and just tell about 'how it was' and how we hope it WILL be for 'our young 'uns'!

I'm sure we will all look forward to listening to your tales Dreamer over a nice cup of tea (I'm a 'Brit') or coffee out on the porch!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:44 am    Post subject: hello back Reply with quote

Hello goganga and Carol B, and everyone...

Thanks for the welcome. Yes there are tales, some of which have been written down and sent to Cayuga Museum here and also taping my mother and aunts talking about when they were growing up and what grandparents said. Sometimes other relatives never heard the stories, not even from my other grandma, so it was news to them.

Very lucky that my cousin found pictures and documents, as well as some here, behind dressers, etc. Now it is time to put it together and sent out to cousins, and others. I already used up a 1 GB flashdrive with family stuff; CD ROMs are too small, so DVD.

Today, a local writer had an article with a picture of my cousin Chick and I, about 4 years old, he pulling me on a sled. The story line is about growing up on my old street.

And the food, always interesting to see what different types in the various regions of Italy, transferred here. Two grandparents from Abruzzo, one from Campobass (Molise) and a Sicilian grandfather, with foster father's family from around Bari. Many different types of food..and the wine, of course.

I forgot to say to Nuccia that I have been to Toronto several times, and we have cousin in Montreal who called to say they will be going to Italy to visit family. How I wish I could go.

May I suggest two books? "Life Al Dente" by Gina Cascone... a little younger than I, but hilarilous. You'll recognize alot of this.

"Mount Allegro" by Jerre Mangionem the uncle of Chuck and Gap the musicans, about growing up in Rochester, NY and visiting Sicily.

Well, have to go and check more mail and the genealogy sites. Where are those relatives??

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave,
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Welcome to this forum!

I really love reading your family stories and how it was when our families moved here.

I like to listen to those stories too. My great grandfather on my mother's side moved to St.Louis in the late 1800s and early 1900s, but them my grandfather moved back to Sicily in 1930 and then I came with my parents and sister to St. Louis back in 1969, so I have heard how it was to first arrive in St. Louis and then move back to Sicily and I guess I will tell my grandchildren all those stories and how it was for me also when I first moved here.

This is the best of life, the stories we shares...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dave,

Welcome to Amici.

I know you are also posting on Italian Genealogy but also feel free to post questions here so that we can help. I believe the more places to post, the more chances at getting the answers you seek.

Keep us posted ok?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello everyone,

Thanks for the messages. I see I misspelled Mangione; how did that m get there.

I can't imagine moving back to Italy and then back here, but some of the grandparents had only come here to earn enough to buy some land back there. Then marriages and kids and perhaps wars kept them here.

Do any of your family use the term "Mup-peen" to describe a dish towel for drying. I heard Rachel Ray use it one day and couldn't believe I would ever hear that word on TV. I can't find it in the Italian dictionary. Also,
"Chey-woots" for mulberries. I don't know where my grandparents got these names. We call long johns "Moo-dons" and when my cousin found our grandfather's Italian Army discharge papers, one booklet listed the items he was issued: one was mutande...ah, so that's how you spell it.

That grandfather was from Siculiana, by the way. And a real character: kept leeches in a box in a drawer, curing family and others as well. My uncle said he had some kind of device with a button that would cause blades to come out in order to "bleed" the sick. I saw one on TV the other day. Bought carpet remnants from the factory across the street for a dollar and sold them for five.

It's 2 am and I have to take my mother and aunt to doctors' appts tomorrow I mean today, so

Goodnight
Dave

Yes Nuccia I will be posting both places and more. Thanks for everything.
The two cats are Snip and Slug who wandered into our yard five years ago. They like to sun themselves in the window wells. In winter I put plexiglass over the holes and they get in at a space: out of the wind but it collects the rays. In summer, it is overgrown with flowers; sometimes when I water, one of them comes flying out. Sorry, couldn't see you in there; you'd think they would get over the water thing when it's hot.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The two cats are Snip and Slug who wandered into our yard five years ago. They like to sun themselves in the window wells. In winter I put plexiglass over the holes and they get in at a space: out of the wind but it collects the rays. In summer, it is overgrown with flowers; sometimes when I water, one of them comes flying out. Sorry, couldn't see you in there; you'd think they would get over the water thing when it's hot.


Ooo Dave - I love you already.... You're kind to animals - you'll be so popular here for that alone Best friends , irrespective of all the other knowledge you will bring to share with us.

Give Snip Kitty&Smiley and Slug Kitty&Smiley a big cuddle from their "Amici" here - you hear?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Carole,

Thanks for message (do I always say that?) I'm glad you like the cats; would anyone like some other strays who come around to eat. Sometimes Slug growls at them, other times sleeps next to them as they eat or sleep themselves. Other times he mistakes Snip for a foreigner and goes after her.

We have quite a few photos of the things, since they are so available. The birds are a little harder. The kids next door named Snip; Andrea asked why her right ear was shorter and I said that's how the Feral Cat Association marks the cats after they spay and neuter them. So she said "Snip! Snippy!" And that seemed a good name. The other one replaced another stray who disappeared years ago named Spike, as he was all beat up like he was in fights down at the docks. After he disappeared and came back with a clipped ear, he became very fat and as the slug is a scientific term for mass, it was even more appropriate.

The kids are older now and don't come over to break flowers and bug me in general. It was like Mr. Wilson vs. Dennis. I miss the laughing, but now the garden and flowers are safe.

How are things where you are, Carole? Sounds like a beautiful place. Someday I will get there.

Goganga, what do you need help for. And why can't you come to the U.S.?

If only we had a transporter, with some safeguards.

Dave

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Dave..

The cats are so adorable.

Yes I have heard of the dishtowel word..although its actually the Americanized version. I can't spell the way it should be said..but I think Simy or Carole can. As for mundane..again Americanized version of slang Italian for underwear.

Glad to see you post and love your stories. Keep sharing, ok?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
I'm glad everyone likes the felids; some people have an aversion, but I don't understand it. We've had both cats and dogs, which I wish we could have but there's no room, there's the expense and you can't go off anywhere as you can with cats.

I've usually had pets around, either roommates or girlfriends, wife, daughter (Missy has 3 dogs and 2 cats, plus gerbil. etc, all enumerated by Shania, age 7).

Anyway, it seems everyone likes stories and I wonder if yours are similar. Some may vary according to age. I was on the cusp of change, as the old stores that sold live chickens, for example, were stopping that practice. I have a story about that (hint: Grandma telling me to catch it and I just stood there, stunned).

A nice one though, when Grandma asked me to stir the polenta and I eagerly got up on the chair to help. After a while it got too hard and had to be rescued. When I walked next to her and held her hand, I said "Grandma your hand smells so good!" It was the basil, and I thought the food got it's flavor from her hands. Eight year old logic. They pronounce it "Vas a nicole" which I found was actually Basilico, very much like my foster parents' name, Basile.

I'll have to post gardening (ours is doing better now) and food...there are some dishes I want feedback on. Ever hear of pizza a cheine or something sounding like that. I found one mention in a book that is very close, but more complicated. My mother just using sliced potatoes, crumbled sausage, sauce, some basil and spices in a pizza dough pie shell. Real deep dish kind of pizza.

Tired...
See you,
Dave


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaveFerro wrote:
Do any of your family use the term "Mup-peen" to describe a dish towel for drying.


Yes, it's the "mappina" (mup-peen-a) Wink

DaveFerro wrote:
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I'm glad everyone likes the felids; some people have an aversion, but I don't understand it.

I also do love cats!
I live with an old cat now. Since December I had a sweet cat in my office too.
You can read something about them in "Our pets" forum. Feel free to start a new topic there and tell us something more about your pets!

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Goganga, what do you need help for. And why can't you come to the U.S.?

If you are referring to *save me* on my sign, it's a link to a song...
As for U.S. ... it's a dream that must become true!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Dave!!!

I love cats! I have a pure white, long haired feline named Benny. He was a stray four years ago. He has a black bushy tail and two black spots on his fore head that I constantly kiss.

My friend Gene taught me this word mupeen for napkin but I had never heard of it before.

My grandparents came here from Sicily. I'll be 56 years old this month.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello again,

Thanks for the info on mappina, goganga, (and why is map pronounced mup?); I can't find it in my small dictionaries, but I'll check the libraries or web. My mother will be interested, as we were so surprised when Rachael Ray said it on TV; I sent e-mail to her, but you know... get a lot of messages from her company now.

Years ago, my roommate in Calif., Kim, came home and said "Davey, I've got it all figured out now!" to which I said "Wha?" (We said that a lot around Kim). Plopping down on my bed next to me she said "You and Gary are kittyguys." "Whaaa? Oh." Her boyfriend and the third in the apartment, also liked her cat Gracie, though I think he was surprised himself at how much. The name came from Gracie Allen, whom Kim admired for her "illogical logic" and I must say Kim shares some characteristics. She called last week and I certainly miss her and Gary. What fun with them!

Anyway, I will go to the pets and gardening forums and also the food: still more dishes that our family made with words I can't find in the dict. I'm getting hungry now, at 1:30 am. and raining with lightning; have to check if I closed the car windows. My memory is blah.

You'll get here, goganga, and visit, perhaps.
Rosie, Happy Birthday!
Just turned 60 myself in May.
I want to see everyone's pets.

Getting worried about the storm, so better get offline. Don't have to water the garden at least.

Dave

Here's one of them actually sleeping peacefully together. I just checked and they are on the porch glider sleeping. The storm is passing, so on with the radio (WBER 90.5 in Rochester; they have a website) and the fan.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rosie,
I forgot to say that my grandfather John Bissi came from Siculiana, Sicily.
That blah memory again. There are a lot of stories about him.

Also my cousin Stan has taken in an additional cat that was stray. Must be a kittyguy, too. Have to tell Kim that.

Where does your family come from? Sicily certainly has a variety of peoples.

Dave
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